[MUSIC] Tim, what are some final advice that you would give to somebody who is trying to succeed in their career? >> Great question. A couple of things come to mind. Number one, when I'm in front of students that are about ready to launch into a successful career, i remind them of the simple truth. Success in the classroom is often 75% IQ and 25% EQ, emotional intelligence. You get out in the working world, it's often the other way around, it's 75% EQ. It's your emotional intelligence. Now certainly we need their smarts and their gifts but it's about the soft skill of relating well to a team. >> Mm-hm. >> And seeing the bigger picture, all these things we've been talking about. So I would just remind a young person going to their career, just don't ever under estimate the power of a good attitude, good communication. Understanding and empathizing with other people which I don't think we do well today. Those are just vital. The other thing I would say is I think I have stopped completely asking university students what do you want to major in? And instead I'm asking the question what problem do you want to solve with your life? I think it's very different question and here is why. When I'm asked, what do you want to major in, it really points back to me. What's my deal? What's my passion? What? And those are good, I think we need to find our passions. But I learned this from Victor Frankl, do you remember that incredible man that lived through the Nazi concentration camps, Auschwitz in the dark days of World War II. >> It's one of my favorite books. >> Yeah, it's powerful, man's search for meaning. >> Mm-hm. >> He said, one of the things he said in this book was this, those who survived learned to stop asking themself, what do I expect of life? And they started asking, what does life expect of me? He said, the concentration camp was not what I was hoping for. >> [LAUGH] >> I didn't plan for this. But, then I'm just going to be bitter all my life, if I say, this didn't turn out the way I wanted. Instead, I need to say, what have I found myself in? What situation? >> Mm-hm. >> And then, what is life expecting of me? And he decided, as a psychologist, and a therapist, if he needed to say, how does the human spirit make it through the darkest times? And he wrote this incredible book. >> Mm-hm. >> So, I would say to students, to avoid becoming disillusioned perhaps. Stop asking how does the world fit into my gifts and passions. Say how can I answer the world's need? What problem can I solve in life that's in front of me today in the 21st century? I just think it's a better question and it leads to great fulfillment. When I solve problems, I'm my best. So that would be what I would say to that. >> That's a great example. For a person out there who's in their mid career, late career, who is not in the right career, not in the right job, what advice would you give to them? >> Well it would not be unlike what I just said, I think even in mid-life we need to say am I really about solving problems or just my career ladder or my gifts. And I don't want anybody to misinterpret. It is important to identify our gifts. It is important to understand what fires us up and what impassions us. But I believe, even in mid-life, we might need to reinvent ourself and say, are the problems different now? And am I answering questions nobody's asking right now? We just talked about this, sometimes we're answering questions nobody's asking. We're wondering why we don't have more followers on Twitter or whatever. So I think even later in life we need to be asking the rudimentary questions, how can I serve better, how can I solve problems and serve people along the way? And when we answer those, whether we're 80 or eight years old, I think we're going to come up with a fulfilling life that satisfied, not only our inward need, but, the world's great need in front of this. >> Great. Dr. Elmore, thank you so much for finding the time to be with us today. For those people watching this interview, what is the easiest way for them to learn more about your organization Growing Leaders or about your Habit Tool books? >> Yeah, it's very simple, we have a website that probably the best place to go. >> Okay. >> There's free items on there as well as items for purchase. It's simply growingleaders.com, growingleaders.com. And I do a blog three times a week if they want to read about leading the next generation as well as the habitude books and other books are on there as well. And we're all about our name, we're about growing leaders in the market place. >> Great thank you so much. >> Yeah you bet, my pleasure. [MUSIC]