Hello, my name is Eliseo Cheo Torres and I'm an administrator and a professor at the University of New Mexico, teaching the course on traditional medicine of Mexico in the southwest. And if we look at traditional medicine, we see many roots. One of them being the Spaniards had brought the moist tradition from Spain to the new world. A lot of it being moist or aerobic in influence, and the other major influence is the African influence. When the African slaves came to this country, they came with the knowledge of many of the plants and the roots and the leaves and the rituals. And we're so fortunate to have a group of Uganda brothers and sister with this today. They will be sharing some of the traditional medicines from Uganda that has made a difference in the lives of many Africans, and I'd like to introduce Sara Nsigaye, who met with me recently. And because of her, we have a groups of these wonderful healers that will be sharing some of their knowledge in a few minutes. So, Sara thank you so much for being in New Mexico. >> Thank you very much for making this dream a reality. [FOREIGN], that is greeting from Uganda. Which is where we come from, Uganda, and [FOREIGN] is a language we're pushing for it Africa, which is how are you. I'm happy to be here, thank you for having us. >> My pleasure. And tell us a little bit of the group that will be speaking in just a couple of minutes and what they will be discussing. >> Okay, we have a group of traditional healers. Some are spiritualists, some are both traditional healers and spiritualists, and who is both a modern practitioner because he's a trained medical doctor. And also a spiritualist and a herbalist and someone who promotes herbal medicine and traditional medicine and indigenous skills and practices, we'll be telling you more about that. Also, I feel so privileged to have come with a group, as rich as they are, Dr. Victor Chwalande. Renown for combating cancer natively using herbal medicine. He's been treating people cases that are diagnosed clinically with cancer and he's cured them. That and more is what you will hear from him. How does he do it? We have Dr. Daudi Mayanja. He's amazing, I really have a lot of respect for him. Because for me, part of the struggle is how do we promote indigenous medicine in terms of access? It is a service to my community immediate but it's also a service to the world. And promoting our medicine, and he is someone who's been knowing medicine from when he was like six years from his father went into a humble company devoted, packaged and processed. Which is where we also want to go in terms of how do we avail accessibility for traditional medicine. He has a branch in South Africa, he;s developing one in Botswana, and several branches in Uganda. So he will be mainly talking about packaging and processing and of course, part of the drugs that he has. We have Leonard, who is also Prometra Uganda, which Dr. Sekagya will be talking about. Why is this script so important to us and why did I come to you Dr. Cheo? I came to you because I was impressed to learn, that you have this course. I don't care whether it's here or elsewhere but traditional medicine generally, indigenous skills, indigenous practices at your risk. In terms of growth, in terms of them being suffocated, in terms of instead of as complimenting each other and seeing how we can walk together modern medicine tends to distance us. I don't know the case here in terms of percentages, but back home in the rural areas where 80% of the population lives, 99% of the population uses herbal medicine and traditional skills and spirituality. And yet, at a policy level, even in terms of the health system and infrastructure. They do not recognize that, if they do, they do not support that and they actually fight them. And part of that is in training, how do we hit a balance and get this people to walk together, which is what you're doing. >> Yes. >> So I was looking at the privilege and opportunity to come with some healers and academicians. We expected to come with 15 people but we did get Visa challenges, so we ended up coming six. But this is a group that also includes advocates in terms of promoting herbal medicine, skill, services. So that will help with the campaigns, what is my plan? To see what you're doing, we hope and we've been learning a lot. We've been seeing a lot of similarities. But we've also seen areas where we can borrow a leaf and learn from. >> Yes, and we can learn from you definitely. >> We look forward to that opportunity. If we can do that, that would be great. >> Definitely. >> Yeah, so we are filming this, we came with Alex who is a videographer. We want to take this back home, the whole experience. Give it to legislators, give it to academicians. How do they incorporate this in their syllabuses? So, and how do they get to have some of these healers teach because there is something that traditional medicine has to offer to modern medicine. >> True. >> So that is what I want them to see because they tend to look to the ways in terms of policies, sometimes, some of the policies are not in line with our realities and conditions. But for me, if they can see that in university- >> Sure. >> Like New Mexico, University of New Mexico is doing this. Maybe it helps us have grounding for these kinds of discussions and conversations. >> Well, thank you, Sara. >> We were so happy to be here. >> We're so happy you came here today. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you very much. And we're going to learn from one another. >> Thank you, we look for it. >> And hopefully, we improve the lives of people. >> Hopefully, yeah. >> So thank you so much. >> Thank you so much for having us. >> Now, for our speakers. >> For our speakers. >> Yes. >> You will be receiving Dr. Sekagya Yahaya, Dr. Daudi Mayanja and Dr. Victor Chwalande. >> Wonderful, thank you. >> Yeah, I'm Dr. Sekagya, I'm a traditional healer, I'm a dental surgeon and I'm a student of African Spirituality from Uganda. I head an organization called Prometra, which promotes traditional medical systems and traditional healthcare systems. We have a training school in the forest where we interrupt with traditional healers and share our different skills. We are fortunate we came to New Mexico to share with the rest of the people. And during the sharing, I have found that really we have lots in common, only that the packaging has changed. We have stayed with our local packaging and I'll explain much about our packaging. But all in all, there are different ways of knowing. But we have dominant western way of knowing, it is not necessary the right one. But it is dominant anyway, but we also follow our ways of knowing and our ways of accessing knowledge. In our African tradition, especially in Uganda, we have formats of, We have essence. These are essence which you put on fire and when they bring out the smoke, then we have an interaction with those who passed on our ancestors. And to us, our ancestors are a very good means of communication. They enriched our knowledge, they give us much more wisdom than we are supposed possibly to have. And when we have different other forms of essence and they serve different purposes. Some are for expressing gratitude, some are for sacrificing And others will express them when we need the luck or relationship problems. And most of the elements could be, yes biological, but others are more at a spiritual level, psychic level, moral level, and at soul level. And all these when they have a problem within themselves, the manifestation is in the physical body. You may slap me and I cry, not necessarily because the slap is painful, but because of the embarrassment you have caused me. And the only way to take out that embarrassment might not be a biological substance, it might not be a medical substance but when we put on a smoke, call the ancestors to intervene into their operation, then it might come down that. I will also explain more about the coffee beans. Coffee beans, we open them up, You can help me to open some. When you open up these coffee beans, and you are in a group in African culture, we normally do group therapy. And in this way, we invite our associates, both physical and non-physical, visible and invisible into the operation. And you give out some of the coffee beans to your friends. [FOREIGN] And at the end of it, once you eat this coffee beans, you have joined the rest of the other groups. And now the ancestors are with us, friends are with us, the departed ones and the other forces. We may pick some of these using this, you put in here. And when we have fire, we have charcoal, we put charcoal here. Then as it smokes, we put this on. It brings up a very good scent and smoke. Yeah, that's it for now. Now, at the end of it, we join into a music, a music system. We can now call upon all other twins and other people to join us. I will read the song. [FOREIGN], And we join the song. Thank you very much. I will hand over to my colleague. >> My name is Victor Kiwalabye, I am herbalist from Africa, my country Uganda. I cure any type of cancer. Now, I'm going to show you the pictures. Breast cancer. Breast cancer carcinoma. We treat that woman. Now, it's cured. Another breast cancer. Now, it's cured. Another breast cancer that were came from Kenya Hospital. Now, it's cured. Baby cancer, breast cancer. Now, it's cured. Cancer, heart. Now, it's cured. Skin rash. He is found in Zaire Uganda. >> [FOREIGN] >> Uganda and Ishdan. Now it's cured. Onchocerciasis, now it's cured. Kaposi's sarcoma, it comes from HIV. Now it's cured. Skin rash, Kaposi's sarcoma. That one came from university, Bali University in Uganda. Now it's cured. Another one Kaposi's sarcoma, now it's cured, after treatment. This is a lymphoma cancer from cancer, it comes from HIV. Now, he's cured. Lymphoma cancer, cancer of the liver. Now, he's cured using herbal medicine. Herbal medicine is aerial medicine. Lymphoma cancer. Now he's cured. Liver cirrhosis. Now he's cured, using herbal medicine. Osteoporosis, bone cancer. Now he's cured. Now, I was at Munyonyo [FOREIGN], >> He was honored by the President of Uganda for his work. >> President of Uganda, his excellency. [FOREIGN] This is osteoporosis, bone cancer, now he's cured. Bone cancer, now it's cured. Lymphoma cancer in the mouth. Now he's cured. Leukemia cancer. Cancer of the bone and cancer of the blood. Now is cured using herbal medicine, Spina Bifida, now is cured. Meningitis it comes sometimes in HIV now is cured using herbal medicine. Diabetes, Look here Now he's cured. Could you say about that one too? >> Yeah, this is one of the communications sent to him by a priest who he cured, liver cirrhosis. >> Who had liver cirrhosis? Thank you very much, now we can refer to Dr. Mayanja but before that I would like to introduce Lenard who is a board member on Prometra Uganda. >> I'm [INAUDIBLE] Lenard, I'm a board member Prometra and I'm also interested in spiritual >> Spirit, spiritual healing and spirituality and general and I'm learning and perhaps with time I'll begin practicing at a different level. >> Mm-hm. >> Now, Doctor Mayeda. >> Thank you very much, it's my pleasure to thank very much Doctor Cheo. To those who have invited us, head of University of New Mexico and the entire crew who have invited us to share good words with you, Dr. Mayanja, my names, and I own a company in Uganda that deals with herbal medicine, processing, packaging, advertising >> And I also a person have been doing this for my child through my dad, through entrepreneurship. Then after it's the same project which facilitated me I managed to study up to the university which I honored human herbal medicine. Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University, South Africa I managed to improve the aspects, the packaging process of this herbal medicine. Because some people thought if you talk about herbal medicine, most especially in these modern countries they thought of that it involves with witchcraft. And I've realized the need of the public most especially in this herbal medicine norm because, they're missing a lot. As you saw my colleagues they've tried to narrate the history how our elders used to work, to share with this wonderful work with the community of which we in Africa, you find that we have a challenge of getting western medication. Because most of our people stay in villages and this traditional medicine [FOREIGN]. Therefore, through walking hand in hand with the government of our country we have managed to improve in processing our traditional medicine. However, we did forget about our custom alone, because it's very important. However much you studied, however much you know or you got a lot of degrees too, you respect your custom norm. Because our family I myself started with my. I used to share with my father and my father also inherited that medicinal knowledge from the father. So it has been transforming from one generation to another generation. And after knowing that because we had so many people. many people used to visit our place. Need the medicine for defined element and some used to bring cows, chicken for appreciations. In Africa if you heal someone, or if you do something good. The sign of showing that the person, she or he has appreciated, most cases they bring goats, cows. So I used to see many cows, I used to see many people used to come to our place appreciating. Therefore, I picked much interest after studying and I knew that this venture is very very important in my life. Until recently when my dad passed away, by then I was in first year at University. I saw, because he had so many contacts with some people. Because he use even to export herbal medicine outside Uganda of which I saw it's somehow, it's a great work. I took over his chair after he passed away and I managed also to sold that. Why people reject this traditional medicine? Because one, they think that the presentation of the products on the market somewhat was a challenge. So I discussed it with the family and members who had this interest in traditional medicine. And we managed to produce such products. As you can see if you talk about herbal medicine from my garden and we are looking at the level. Of someone who is the prime minister, assuming who is a lecture in a big position. Some people used to minimize these herbal medicines. Without knowing that the medicine itself is not about packaging, but it's about the medicine that you provide to someone. But, because of the modernity of how we are nowadays. We find it some people are missing these great great medicinal plants which could be very, very significant to their lives. Therefore, we have also managed to improve in packaging, processing and packaging. And also we have also looked at in areas of marketing. Sometimes our elders like in our country, in Uganda, you find that people in villages or in families they have the knowledge of traditional medicine. But they don't expose them after when they have passed away you find that the whole community it has lost that kind of the knowledge which could have been very, very significant even to the entire community. So that's why my company, [INAUDIBLE] Herbal Joint Research Clinic, at moment We have managed also to share this knowledge with the medical doctors and we believe that however much you are using traditional medicine. But also it's quite important to investigate the elements. For example, if you talk about for example on my board, I also came up with an idea of specialization. That we need to specialize, because if you look at, into traditional medicine, you find that our elders used to give out many, many medicine or plants without specifying some points. That's why we came up with a reproduction and reproduction. We deal with fibroids, we deal with people with blockage of tubes, people who have, with infertility cases, low sperm count, and others. So I'm very grateful to share this knowledge with you, and I thank very much Dr. Charles who has invited us to this wonderful show. Well let me thank our brothers and sister from Uganda, Africa for an excellent presentation. They remind of where the traditional medicine really came from. We have borrowed from many cultures and one of the principal culture is Africa. So thank you very much, Sarah, and the rest of our guests, doctors, thank you for sharing this wisdom. And we hope you come back to New Mexico. And our students are going to learn from this. >> Thank you very much. >> So thank you, we make you honorably New Mexico
