6.2.4 Interview of Flavio Comim: A response to the common criticisms of the HDI

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Global Statistics - Composite Indices for International Comparisons

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University of Geneva

Global Statistics - Composite Indices for International Comparisons

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The number of composite indices that are constructed and used internationally is growing very fast; but whilst the complexity of quantitative techniques has increased dramatically, the education and training in this area has been dragging and lagging behind. As a consequence, these simple numbers, expected to synthesize quite complex issues, are often presented to the public and used in the political debate without proper emphasis on their intrinsic limitations and correct interpretations. In this course on global statistics, offered by the University of Geneva jointly with the ETH Zürich KOF, you will learn the general approach of constructing composite indices and some of resulting problems. We will discuss the technical properties, the internal structure (like aggregation, weighting, stability of time series), the primary data used and the variable selection methods. These concepts will be illustrated using a sample of the most popular composite indices. We will try to address not only statistical questions but also focus on the distinction between policy-, media- and paradigm-driven indicators.

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Liner shipping connectivity indices (UNCTAD) and Human development index (UNDP)

During this week you will be exploring two indices. The first index, the Liner Shipping (Bilateral) Connectivity Index (LSCI/LSBCI) computed each year by UNCTAD since 2004. It provides an overall indicator of a country maritime connectivity related to liner shipping. Throughout this lesson, we give some insights on why the LSCI and LSBCI were developed. We also cover the methodology to build both indices. We then discuss some stylized facts. The second index presented this week is the Human Development Index (HDI) developed by UNDP. During this lesson, you will be slightly introduced with the history of the HDI. We explain the steps of constructing the HDI, i.e. choosing the three dimensions (health, education and living conditions) composing the HDI and their respective indicators, normalizing the indicators and aggregating the indicators and dimensional sub-indices using different methods. Then, we use a practical example to calculate the HDI for one country. At the end, we discuss some limitations of the HDI and give some elements for future improvement.

6.2.1 Introduction and motivation for the Human Development index9:02

6.2.2 Indicators: selection and data issues12:18

6.2.3 Aggregation, methods and reasoning11:43

6.2.4 Interview of Flavio Comim: A response to the common criticisms of the HDI9:56

6.2.6 Interview of Selim Jahan, part I: History of the Human Development index, and its major strengths and weaknesses10:19

6.2.7 Interview of Selim Jahan, part II: Other indices in the Human Development Report (HDR), and future of the HDR13:50

Meet the Instructors

Stefan Andreas Sperlich
Professor
GSEM, Research Center for Statistics
Juan Manuel Rodriguez Poo (in Partnership with UNIGE)
Professor
Departamento de Economía, Universidad de Cantabria

Hello. My name is Flavio Comim.

I teach Development Economics,

Human Development at the Federal University of Rio Grande do Sul in Brazil and

also at the University of Cambridge and I have worked some years for UNDP,

coordinating to human development reports to National Human Development Report.

What I would say about the HDI first is that the HDI is a very valuable too,

for public reason and it was meant to be like that.

And I think to start with because it's very simple,

everyone can remember that we are talking about health,

we are talking about education,

we are talking about a certain measure of available income and that is part of

how people would understand in very basic terms the notion or living well.

So people don't appreciate and one can see quite often

how many people have criticized the HDI because it doesn't have 10, 15, 20 dimensions.

But, in fact, I would not go as a practitioner,

I will not go in that direction saying that one of

the failures of the HDI is because it doesn't include other dimensions.

And we start with developing that idea is because

the HDI was meant to be a family of indicators so it's not simply about the main index,

but it's also about the index in which we can see some gender gaps.

It's about the index where we can see some inequalities revealed.

It's about the counterpart in terms of poverty that we had.

It's about the other family of indicators that can be used so

the HDI is a sort of structure in which we are going

for very basic notions of development and

some people have criticized the HDI for being an index for developing countries only.

But I also consider that unfair criticism because

when one sees how the poor were leaving some developed countries,

they might have the same sort of difficulties.

They might be living less than relatively rich,

they might be earning less,

they don't have as many years of study or

the same expectation of completing the same number of years of study.

The same sort of difficulties would apply.

Now where I do think that the HDI might be and then I will

start my list after having supported

the HDI for its simplicity and for the weight articulate indicators where I think that

the HDI does have some issues is that it was meant to measure capabilities.

But, what we have there?

They are just proxies for capabilities.

Why? Because when we are talking about health,

we don't know how well people are.

We have an idea of how many years one can live but one can have

a miserable life during all these years without living well, without being healthy.

So having a new index where one can talk about the quality of this living,

that will improve the HDI.

That will be closer to the notion of functioning and freedoms people

have if they don't have to depend on drugs,

if they don't have to depend on people to help

them whether they can be healthy and autonomous people.

Similarly, when one goes into education,

the problem we have is that we don't have a measure like PISA or

a measure like national evaluation systems.

They produce literacy, numeracy,

whether we have at least basic notion about

the sort of things people able to do after they go through education system.

So we will have a better idea of functioning if we were able to

appreciate what people's real abilities or skills after they go through education system.

As we have today,

it's a rough measure about how education systems work.

Of course, much better after 2010 because the review

moved beyond rough measures of literacy and simply enrollment.

So what we have today in terms of many years of study and

expectation when one joins the primary education level is much better,

but still, it's about education system.

It's not about what people can be and can do after they go through education system.

Now, when it comes to the third dimension,

the main problem we have is that not simply about

the level of income that people earn but it's how people earn their living.

There are some people who have miserable jobs.

They are invisible and they are not appreciated for the things they do.

At the same time, there are people who enjoy what they are doing.

They are people who are not simply earn a certain living,

but they are appreciated for the things they do.

They have fun. So one clear improvement when it comes to the notion of available income,

which is not simply about using that income to buy

things but it's about how individuals earn that living.

Now that goes back to the sort of things,

people to be able to be and to do and gets very close sometimes to what ILO,

called International Labor Organization, calls decent work.

A basic notion of decency is essential to see

how one can better link the notion of income to the notion of human development.

So I think repeating the thing I said,

for the three dimensions of the HDI,

I see how they are possible improvements.

They're getting it closer to the notion of capabilities.

But that is just part of the issue because

people tend to read the rankings as if they were complete rankings.

Yes, if all countries were fully comparable and we know that's not true,

we know that some countries they might be better at doing something or people there.

They might be living longer.

In other countries, they are poorer.

How can we understand these trade-offs.

Can we establish ways of comparing countries that we don't have to push,

to force for comparability?

So there are different possible ways in which we can read the HDI and I hope that,

in the future, we can move in that direction.

I also like to mention that the attempts at greening the HDI because we know

today that we should not simply understand

human development independently from what happens to nature.

Let's call nature ecosystems,

but we have to understand together because we are very much dependent on ecosystems.

Not simply as instruments of our human development,

but as intrinsic value,

as having intrinsic value themselves.

So, the main point is that we should get

not a separate dimensions for the HDI normally they would be related to CO2 emissions.

As we have seen some statistics,

we shouldn't do that as people have done in the literature before.

But we should try to see to what extent our living conditions depend on the environment,

how the environment might affect our schools,

how the environment might affect a number of years we live,

how the environment might affect our living.

But also how our living,

our schools and the fact that we are living longer might benefit the environment.

How can we find sustainable human development in the way of keeping things together?

For me, the way that we defined the dimensions,

which was the first point,

the way that we analyzed the dimensions,

which is the second point,

and the environmental issues,

these are the three main challenges for

the HDI and for how it's going to be used in the future.

I don't think it's a question of increasing the number of the dimensions of the HDI.

I think it's a question of keeping it simple.

Keep it neat for what Mahbub ul Haq meant it to be,

to be a vulgar indicator.

An indicator that everyone could use because it's

simple and could be more related to the way that people live. Thank you.

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