When I turned a certain age and I realized that I wanted to be a helper. A helper for the Creator, I decided that I wanted to start going to the Sweat lodge, and from there dreams, visions, inside the lodge, outside the lodge, during the Sun Dance, during my fasting ceremonies. A lot of different teachings would come to me through just by listening. So one of the biggest things that we teach our children is obedience, listen. Listen as I talk. If something resonates with you, keep it, hang on to it, it will help you some day in the future. By experience, I had to live a long hard life, to get to where I am today, and I share my personal life journey with whoever asks me to teach. Because I believe that my experiences in my life will help another person. And it could be the hardships of my life. It could be the good times of my life. But that's how I teaches with, by my own experience, using myself as an example. >> We're talking about Dr. Peter Hadden and his research. On medicinal plants that have an effect for diabetes, treating diabetes. So he relies on indigenous people from Northern Quebec Cree for sharing that traditional knowledge with him, and then he brings the plant into the laboratory, University of Montreal. And sensitizes the the active components or molecules that have that effect on the pancreas. scientists don't completely accept indigenous knowledge. They still have to quantify it empirically in some way, shape or form, right? Rather than listening to me and say there's Jack fish in here, and some white fish in some suckers. They'll send a biologist in catch him, catch and release and say yea, Yolo, this is what I found. There's also a non-indigenous scientists going out into the indigenous community, and asking questions about indigenous knowledge, or indigenous science, indigenous wisdom. But then when they collect the information, they take it back to the institution, sometimes he copyright it. So where's the intellectual property right? Lie with who does it lie with, to me is the indigenous community because we're a collectivity. It's a collective knowledge, system we live with. It's not an individual thing. Not like a scientist, right? This is mine, mine went and found this, you know somehow. So what the department of environmental monitoring, Alberta environment and parks do is creating a code of ethics. For scientists researching indigenous knowledge. >> I get example I did on the knowledge keepers was the least clam gardens. And so, the Loki ways and they were basically very ancient aqua-culture. For thousands of years, where clams were basically nurtured, and tended in these gardens, these rock gardens were attended along the coast all the way along the BC coast. And to someone in the tribes and the cultures on the west coast. They go yeah so looky way, so and scientists are going, I've been looking at these rocks, and these rock formations for years, trying to figure out their natural traditionally derived, or what? And so, I think that's the problem, is that, there's this knowledge that's just inherent. It's just part of the tradition that I don't know that a scientist is asking those questions, but you can't get to that answer without ever asking. And we don't even know what questions to ask. Because we don't know what knowledge is gained on either side. So it just requires a little bit of just banding together. There's just a lot of room for what scientists can learn is just a holistic approach. Just that another perspective, and then bring that all in, and it's going to enrich your science, and it's going to enrich how you see the world. >> As far as I know, science cannot meet your spirit. Science cannot measure your love and say, today you're only 10% love. They tried to do that, through using molecules and endorphins, etc., and then the big one, I think, is consciousness. Science cannot measure consciousness, or even defined consciousness. What is consciousness? It attempts to measure a limited percentage of the physical aspect of cell. >> Through experience, we can gain knowledge and understanding by making observations of the world around us. In an experience, we don't learn by focusing on measurements, or any one particular aspect. Instead, we focus on the hook, what's happening, what we are thinking, how that fits with our worldview, and how that makes us feel? My limited understanding of science, even though I've studied it a lot. It's very limited in that, and I think the model of science is still the Cartesian split model, the y and the x axis. And when you plot that on a circle, it just forms the right hand quadrant of a circle. So what's three quarters of the circle? That it's missing? It can't measure, and from my belief, we have four aspects of self, a spiritual aspect, and emotional aspect, a mental aspect, and a physical aspect. Those are the four aspects of self. I've come up with a methodology, I called witchy-teachings. And it's a partnership what I called, Wisdom and Science. So I coined a new word called, Wisescience. And for me, that really works well as matter of fact, that's my lifestyle and I can't ignore my scientific education, and my scientific training. Neither can I ignore my indigenous knowledge in indigenous science and wisdom. You regardless if you're indigenous or non-indigenous, we all do that. Anyways, we all have tremendous wisdom in us. And we don't leave it outside the classroom. Because wisdom is experiential, learning and teaching. >> It's clear there's no right or wrong way to acquire knowledge. >> Different people take different approaches to better understand the unknown. In science, we gain knowledge and understanding by asking questions. These questions direct observations, which are later evaluated to form explanations. >> If you can plot it on the x and y axis, then by gosh you got reality by the tail. These thoughts, what do you think? But what about spirit, what about emotion, what about consciousness? You can feel it, you could feel them and stuff, but you can measure them, you have to trust. That's right, and that's the way I think it's meant to be. Yeah, I always say there's very little wisdom in science, but there's a lot of wisdom in the scientist. [LAUGH]. Sometimes, but he leaves it though inside his lab. [MUSIC] >> Throughout this course, we will focus specifically on the process of science, as a tool or skill to build an update knowledge and understanding. But we mustn't forget that the specific systematic process of science, may blind us to ongoing observations within an experience, which may be useful in building or updating our knowledge as a whole. So the best way to acquire and update your knowledge is to keep an open mind to new information gained from science, media, or your own experience. [MUSIC]