Tim hi it's good to see you. Hi, thank you. How are you doing? Hum, I'm doing OK. I'm about as good as to be expected. I'm actually more worried about Jesse. Tell me what's going on with Jesse. Jessie. Well. Some days I think he's doing better than I am. But it was rough, I'm at the start and it's still rough. He, he's a sweet kid, though. He tries to help out around the house, he tries to cook and clean. And we're getting better. At making sure he knows everything that's happening. I guess what we're focused on right now is time. Just want to make sure he has as much mom time as possible. He is such a special kid, >> He's great >> And you're doing a good job keeping him involved in what's going on. Does he get a chance to talk about how he's feeling or to ask questions? You know, probably not enough. OK, well one of the things if you and Sarah and if Jesse agrees we have someone spiritual care who's really good at talking to 12 year old boys getting them to open up. No pressure. You know, forcing them to talk about their feelings but just not very laid back. Sometimes they play video games together or get some to open up and see if there's anything that they're thinking or afraid of it. They don't have it, they don't, they're afraid to ask the parents. That would be great. OK, I'll mention this to David and get him involved. How are the two of you doing? Well. OK. Hum. Have you have you spoken to Sarah? I have, and I've heard things sort of from her perspective, but I'd like to hear from you too. So I guess we're having some good days and some bad. Well. Probably more bad than good, and probably. Not whole days. But we have our moments. We have our good moments. Truly good moments. Yeah, I heard about your lovely breakfast picnic. The picnic. That was Jesse's idea, that was great. We probably do one every week. It was fun, but I was a little worried. Sarah hardly ate anything I made. All our favorite foods I tried to help her eat it. But she really didn't eat anything and. I'm just wondering if there's something more I should be doing. You know, I want to reassure you, you are doing an amazing job taking care of Sarah. I truly can't imagine anyone doing it any better. You know? When we love someone, we want them to eat. Food is so tight >> That's right >> Into love but just Sarah is at a stage of her illness where she just can't eat very much. She's eating for pleasure, not for calories right now. You know. You don't want to force her to eat because if she eats more than her body can handle, she start, she may become nauseous. She might start throwing up. But you're preparing her favorite foods, and she'll take a few bites here. A few bytes there. She might ask you to prepare something and then decided she doesn't want to eat it. But you're doing just the right thing. Thank you. Yeah now. And she says, listening to her body and it gets giving her clues what she can and can't do. OK. But I do know it is so hard to be a caregiver both physically and emotionally. I going to have our home health aide come in five days a week instead of three to help with some of the personal care needs? Some of the physical? >> Okay, that would help >> And I think as it is getting closer an I think the nurse instead of coming once a week will probably come two or three times a week right now. But he was also emotional stress on being a caregiver. And where are you getting your support from? Yeah. Well. I guess church helps. And we have a few friends. But that's pretty much it. OK, well if you feel we need to talk about how this is affecting you, know David, our spiritual care provider is really good listener and he's available to you as well. Thank you. The whole team is here for you and for Jesse, in addition to Sarah's a little bit different than the sometimes, the traditional medical team, both palliative care and Hospice really are here for the whole family cancer. >> It's good to hear >> Cancer effects more than just the patient, it effects all of you. And then we are here for you. Even after Sarah's gone, we will be here 13 months after >> 13. Well, you know that one year point can be particularly hard. Now we can be as long as you need us, but at least 13 months. OK, >> Just we're here to support you. Thank you and anything you need please. You know our number, please call. I will thank you very much. Alright take care, >> Thanks.