You've completed a master's degree. How's this helped your writing? >> Well, my master's is a Masters of Education. So, it's really Child's Literacy. But it's helped tremendously in terms of writing for children, which is what, I write for adults, but I also write for children. And so, when I was in my master's program, I got a lot strong grounding in children's literature. Because my adviser was actually a children's literature scholar. And so I read a lot of children's books. I sort of got my introduction to children's literature theory and literary criticism of children's literature. And that really has informed a lot of how I approach writing children's books. It helps to have that sort of academic, sort of training and background. It definitely helps. >> It would look really good on your resume as well, wouldn't it. Having something like that. [LAUGH] >> I hope so. >> Finally if you've got some words of wisdom for our learners? >> Well, one thing, trust your gut as a writer. You're going to get a lot of advice. You're going to read a lot of tutorials. We all do it. But, in the end, you really have to trust your gut. A lot of people that have, really made an impact on or he does, are the ones with writers have sort of done their own thing. They've broken rules. And it's good to know craft, and it's good to know what other editors who have gone before you have done. But there is something about sort of being really grounded in your own point of view. And writing from a place that's really authentic. And it's not easy. But with practice and with commitment, I think it produces your best writing. >> That's for sure. And we'll look forward to seeing more of your writing, because you've got a wonderful website. And you've put some of your poems up on there, haven't you? >> Yes I do. I have a page on my website where I have linked my poetry. The ones that are available on the web. So you can certainly feel free to check out my poetry. [SOUND] I find that it's always interesting to hear feedback from people who have read my poetry. Because they often have interpretations of like that, sort of, always give me fresh perspective on my work. I think that's really value and sharing your work. >> And what are you working on as a children's book for yourself at the moment? >> Yes. I'm currently writing a children's novel. It's a realistic fiction novel. It's set in Trinidad, right here. And it's set in the 1990s during the coup, which was an attempted rebellion by a group of local Muslim extremists against the government. And so I'm writing a book sort of based in that setting and that time period and around that event but the story is really about a young girl and her relationship with her sister and her school friends. With all of the history, sort of drawn in as a map. >> Yes. That sounds really interesting. I'd love to read it in the future. Well what do you do if you get writers block? Have you ever had that experience? >> Well writer's block. Yes. I actually had writers block for like a whole year at once. [LAUGH] It can get that bad. And you know what? It was a really valuable lesson for me what I learned from it was that sometimes you just have to let writer's block happen. Because there's a reason it's happening. It's not that your a bad writer, it's not that you are doing something wrong. It's not that you should give up,it sometimes what happens is that there is something that you want to say that needs to, needs time to ripen and your voice needs time to grow and that happens a lot in silence. And so I practice silence a lot as a writer because in that silence there's a build up of words that eventually comes out as writing on the page. >> So do you put your work away and have a bit of a party for a while? >> Well [LAUGH] I've been planning to have a party. >> [LAUGH] >> In the beginning, I thought to have a party when you feel like you should be writing. >> True. [LAUGH] Well thanks for that. You've given our learners lots of interesting tips which I'm sure they'll find very helpful. And thank you for sharing your wisdom with our learners. Thanks very much, Summer. >> Thank you. It was a pleasure talking with you.